Push symbol enhancements

bw99

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Push notations are something I see quite a bit of variance in from different chart authors. It seems there's always a little verbal explanation needed. Some people use < and > for pushes ahead and behind the downbeat respectively. Not bad, but what if I want to use > as an accent symbol?
I like Jim Riley's convention of marking the push < above and slightly ahead or slightly behind the chord symbol. (http://jimrileymusic.com/pdf/number_system_part2.pdf ) I don't see a way to notate this in 1Chart. Would be nice if you could add a space bar character when entering push symbols so they can appear ahead or behind the chord symbol.
 
Yes, it's almost like pushes are a personal thing — lots of different styles. The 8th-note variation I've attached here is another option within 1Chart (there's also a 16th-note version). Using that variation would leave > available to signify an accent. But of course, not everyone is going to like the 8th-note variation!

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The > symbol shown "slightly before or after" idea is nice — makes things clearer. Noted!
 
Yes, was wondering if I was missing something-- it would definitely be nice to be able to offset the "push" symbol, as de Clerq does in his Fake Book (see partial screenshot). As it is in the app, they just look like accents to me, at least at first glance.
 

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The eighth- (and 16th-) note options are offset left, emphasizing the "push" idea — might be something to check out to see if you like the looks of those. The 8th-note option is shown in my post above.

Right now the angle-style pushes show up in-line with the chord they're sitting over, mainly due to the different ways they're used (sometimes for ahead of downbeat, sometimes for behind). We do have it on the wish list to offer a preference for offsetting these in either direction.
 
The eighth- (and 16th-) note options are offset left, emphasizing the "push" idea — might be something to check out to see if you like the looks of those. The 8th-note option is shown in my post above.

Right now the angle-style pushes show up in-line with the chord they're sitting over, mainly due to the different ways they're used (sometimes for ahead of downbeat, sometimes for behind). We do have it on the wish list to offer a preference for offsetting these in either direction.
Cool, thanks, Mark.
 
Yes, was wondering if I was missing something-- it would definitely be nice to be able to offset the "push" symbol, as de Clerq does in his Fake Book (see partial screenshot). As it is in the app, they just look like accents to me, at least at first glance.
I’m trying to figure out how to show a push on the and of 4th beat in a measure
 
I’m trying to figure out how to show a push on the and of 4th beat in a measure
There's no definitive way to do this currently, but there are at least a couple of workarounds...

This screenshot shows the simplest way. Type your chord twice (in a single measure). Add three quarter notes above the "first" chord and a quarter-note push above the second chord.
push4_option1.png


The second option is a little more complicated. Type three quarter-notes, then tap the green button on the rhythm keyboard (which switches to "Rhythm over Spaces" mode), type a quarter note, type a push.
push4_option2.png

If you're using the second option, don't forget to switch back to the regular Rhythm over Chords modes on the rhythm keyboard (by tapping the button that is now red).

Hope this helps!
 
There's no definitive way to do this currently, but there are at least a couple of workarounds...

This screenshot shows the simplest way. Type your chord twice (in a single measure). Add three quarter notes above the "first" chord and a quarter-note push above the second chord.
View attachment 88


The second option is a little more complicated. Type three quarter-notes, then tap the green button on the rhythm keyboard (which switches to "Rhythm over Spaces" mode), type a quarter note, type a push.
View attachment 89

If you're using the second option, don't forget to switch back to the regular Rhythm over Chords modes on the rhythm keyboard (by tapping the button that is now red).

Hope this helps!
Thanks Mark.
 
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