Beaming problem

arco

Member
how do I beam the two single eighth notes?
I tapped the beam button, added the first eighth note (it showed the beam), but when moving to 2, the beam disappeared leaving it as a single flag and the beam button became inactive. Adding the second eighth note did not beam. Is it possible to beam across two numbers?
Thanks Mark.
v1.7
 

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Mark

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Hi arco, the trick is to use the forward arrow > (top left of keyboard) to advance the cursor while you're beaming. Please give that a try.
 

arco

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Thanks Mark, I was using the advance arrow (I had thought), also tried tapping. Anyway, it works now so that's great.
I did notice that if you tap a few times between the two numbers, the beam on the first two noteheads also disappears—sometimes.
I also noticed this, where the tie is very near the 7. Not sure if this is something you think needs fixing, but just letting you know. At a small size it might not be very clear to read.
 

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arco

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Mark, related to sometimes not having the beam by using the Advance arrows, I found the bug, but perhaps not the exact steps. I have it on video so will email you directly so you can track it down.
- I cannot attach it via a conversation. How can I get it to you or shall I outline some steps?
 
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Mark

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Hi arco, I'll message you an email address. Happy to take a look at the video!
 

Mark

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Video received. :) Bug confirmed. :(

For anyone following the thread, the issue is with beaming notes that span measures. Triplets that span measures are also affected. I will get a fix in the works.

Thanks for raising the issue, arco!
 

Mark

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I wanted to give an update on this issue, because I implied something incorrect above – namely that "beams from one measure to another" are something that have been supported in 1Chart. They haven't. You can beam notes from chord to chord within a measure. But if notes are connected from one measure to another, it's been via a tie, not a beam. That's the standard way to draw the connection, or at least I haven't heard any need for beamed notes that span measures (yet – and I'm all ears!).

The actual bug in this case is a very unusual combination of steps involving creating, deleting, recreating notes over a couple of chords in the same measure while remaining in beam mode. We will fix this in a future release, but the release that went out today (v1.7.3) prioritized other bugs that are more common.

Sorry for the confusion!
 

Tony Chung

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Sorry to hijack an old thread... but interesting quirks that I found with beaming:

1) When I select a group of notes that I want to beam, the beam ignores the first item in the set and starts beaming from the second item onward. To beam four items, I have to select 5, and then I can beam the last 4. This is odd behavior because to add a rhythm mark, I place the cursor right next to the chord number.

2) Even when the beamed notes are within a bar, after I select something else, the beam disappears.
 

Mark

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Hmm... To create beamed notes, you tap Beam, type your notes, then tap Beam again to exit beam mode. Try that and let me know if it helps. You can't really "select notes for beaming" after the fact.

About #2, if you need to move the cursor from one measure to another when beaming, you'll need to use the > blue arrow near the top left of the keyboard. Tapping anywhere while in beam mode will exit beam mode.

There's more on beams in this help section (search for the word "beam"). Hope this helps, and please let me know if you have other questions!
 

Tony Chung

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Hi Mark... well I guess it pays to learn how to use the app as it's designed! Your method is so much quicker!

Of course, I thought adding the note values and then beaming after the fact was faster. I mean, theoretically I can select a block of notes and tap "Beam", but then I would have wasted time tapping numbers and adding note values. But to beam first and tap second makes sense now that I used it.

Now, another suggestion related to notes and beaming... on the keyboard, is there a purpose for a separate dot key at the end of the note value, and the other at the end of the rest value? Or could we use the same dot for notes and rests? I ask because it would be helpful to include 32nd notes. And, if we don't need to double up on diamonds and triangles, we could possibly get 32nd rests too...?

And it might also help if the font size shrunk based on the note duration, at least in aligned measures. But I can get something to work for now. ;)
 

Mark

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Hi Mark... well I guess it pays to learn how to use the app as it's designed! Your method is so much quicker!

Of course, I thought adding the note values and then beaming after the fact was faster. I mean, theoretically I can select a block of notes and tap "Beam", but then I would have wasted time tapping numbers and adding note values. But to beam first and tap second makes sense now that I used it.

Sounds good!

Now, another suggestion related to notes and beaming... on the keyboard, is there a purpose for a separate dot key at the end of the note value, and the other at the end of the rest value? Or could we use the same dot for notes and rests? I ask because it would be helpful to include 32nd notes. And, if we don't need to double up on diamonds and triangles, we could possibly get 32nd rests too...?

Those dots are identical, so yes, that's one way to possibly buy some space for other characters like the 32nd note and rest. :)

And it might also help if the font size shrunk based on the note duration, at least in aligned measures. But I can get something to work for now. ;)

Sorry, I'm not clear on shrinking the font size based on note duration. Can you say more about this?
 
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